The Christian and Secular Music

  • strict warning: Non-static method view::load() should not be called statically in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/views.module on line 842.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_handler_argument::init() should be compatible with views_handler::init(&$view, $options) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/handlers/views_handler_argument.inc on line 745.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_handler_filter::options_validate() should be compatible with views_handler::options_validate($form, &$form_state) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/handlers/views_handler_filter.inc on line 589.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_handler_filter::options_submit() should be compatible with views_handler::options_submit($form, &$form_state) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/handlers/views_handler_filter.inc on line 589.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_handler_filter_boolean_operator::value_validate() should be compatible with views_handler_filter::value_validate($form, &$form_state) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/handlers/views_handler_filter_boolean_operator.inc on line 149.
  • strict warning: Non-static method view::load() should not be called statically in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/views.module on line 842.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_plugin_style_default::options() should be compatible with views_object::options() in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/plugins/views_plugin_style_default.inc on line 25.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_plugin_row::options_validate() should be compatible with views_plugin::options_validate(&$form, &$form_state) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/plugins/views_plugin_row.inc on line 135.
  • strict warning: Declaration of views_plugin_row::options_submit() should be compatible with views_plugin::options_submit(&$form, &$form_state) in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/56299/domains/tayjomusic.com/html/sites/all/modules/views/plugins/views_plugin_row.inc on line 135.
Posted on Fri, 07/08/2011 - 11:15am

By EX Ministries

ARGUMENT - I don't listen to the words, I just like the beats/music.

RESPONSE - Your sub conscience records everything! You may try to block out the lyrics, but you cannot stop them from being recorded into your mind. Your mind can even record backwards messages. It has been scientifically proven that your mind is so clever that, even when you aren't trying to, you can receive the information that is stated in the lyrics of music. Even if it is recorded backwards. And it affects you! When you listen to sex, sex, sex, or murder, murder, murder, those are things that will come out of you in the heat of the moment. They are programmed in your mind without your consent.

PROOF - How many TV commercial jingles do you know? And how many of those did you actually learn purposely?  Your answer is probably that you never intended to learn them, but because they played in your mind, you learned them without putting forth any effort. Now, where do you think the foul messages from Hip Hop are going when you listen to them?

SCRIPTURE - Galatians 6:8 for he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

---

ARGUMENT - I'm not influenced by music.  I can listen to it and it won't even affect me.

RESPONSE - Then why do advertisers pay up to $1,000,000 for 15 minutes of commercial time during the Super Bowl? They know something that you don't even know about yourself. They can play their commercial jingle and show you pictures of things, and influence you to buy their product in a matter of seconds. Your mouth gets watery, your lips get white, and your stomach starts growling because your hunger and your ears begin to work together to cause you to desire that hamburger! Well, the same goes for sin. Your fleshly man and those lyrics/videos begin to work together to cause you to desire sin. Our flesh is already wicked and desires things that are not of God. So what happens when you mix that with sinful lyrics, or sinful video images?

PROOF - What kind of music do you like?  Okay, now, what kind of things do you do that are not of God?  Told ya!!!

SCRIPTURE - James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

--

ARGUMENT - The secular artists that I listen to are Christians. Even though their lyrics are foul and they dress provocatively, they say they are Christians.

RESPONSE - Whom are they working for?  You see, they have to be responsible for their actions. If they are making music that causes young people to sin or be tempted to sin, then they aren't working for Christ. If they use profanity, sex, drugs, violence, sexy costumes, or any other sinful thing to sell records then they cannot be working for Christ. Therefore, if they aren't working with him, then they are working against him. And they are subject to the demonic forces that control the recording industry.

PROOF - Count the number of songs that glorify sin on their album. Then, count the number of songs that glorify God on their albums. Who won?

SCRIPTURE - Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

--

ARGUMENT - What is wrong with Gospel artists singing and recording with secular artists. That is a way to get the Gospel out to the sinners right?

RESPONSE - Music was never used in the bible to win the lost. Music was always used to prepare the hearts for the word of God or the presence of God. Music cannot win a soul. When Paul and Silas were locked in jail, the bible says that they sang praises to the Lord and the doors opened.  A guard heard them and fell to his knees and asked, "What must I do to be saved." The music stopped and Paul preached the Word to him! Yeah, a lot a people feel good after they hear the ONE gospel song on these foul albums, but are they getting the word afterwards? How can they when the next song is XXX!  You see, there is a deep danger in the spirit realm when gospel artists record with sinful secular artists. You are opening people up and not completing the job.

But the worst part is that the message of Christ is made of non-effect by the message of sin. You are causing people to sin and then letting them know it's okay as long as they sing about Christ afterwards? God forbid. Music cannot save them. Look at Lucifer in heaven. He was making God's music and ushering in the very presence of God. But his heart turned evil and proud. Did the music change him? What about the sinful artists you are recording with. Is the music changing them? NO! They can record a 20 song CD and have one gospel song and if it doesn’t change them, what makes you think it will change others that listen to it? I have yet to hear one of these "crossover" gospel artists say that the rest of the music on the secular albums that they are recording on is bad! They can't because they are on the project!

And what happens when the gospel music fans want to hear the new song that their favorite artists has recorded?  They have to buy the sinful CD, sit and listen to the sin, sex, violence, etc. to get to the gospel song? Do you know what you are doing to the youth of America? Not only are you supporting the secular industry, but you are causing Christians to buy the XXX cd's just to hear you! Can you imagine a 15 year old Christian teenager purchasing Missy Elliot's CD because they are a fan of Evangelist Dorinda Clark, or a fan of Yolanda Adams? Can you imagine what happens to them when they listen to "Get your freak on" or "One Minute Man" while they sleep or while they are riding in their car? God is upset people! He would never tempt people with sin before he offers salvation!

PROOF - Imagine a large 24 x 24 foot billboard of 2 teenagers having sex. And on the bottom corner, written very small, are the words "Jesus Christ". Now, what do people see first? Why? Because the painting glorifies the sin, and not Christ. And even worse, Jesus' name appears as a signature of approval and not a message for change! Now, imagine that the billboard is a CD. Get the picture?

SCRIPTURES- Luke 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 2 Corintians 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

--

ARGUMENT - What's wrong with Gospel artists getting famous, making them secular dollars and signing contracts on secular labels? After all, the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just, right?

RESPONSE - First of all, there is a price for fame. Jesus himself didn't want to be famous because of what it would cost him. That's why after he performed miracles, he would always say, "Don't tell anyone". Are we better than Christ that we should seek fame? Should anyone carrying the name of Christ desire to have their name higher than his?  Who are we glorifying, his name, or our name?

Second, signing a secular contract sells away your right to make your own decisions about your music. How can a person that is governed by secular ideas, marketing strategies, and demonic influences, be in position to hear from God? The record company has the final say! You have put yourself in a position to be governed by the enemy and not God. Whatever they want from you, you are legally charged to give. Wherever they say go, you must go. Whatever they say do, you must do! All for the sake of fame and "getting out there". The saddest part is that the mentalities of our nations musicians are changing.  Now, before they ever hear from God, before they even get seasoned, or many times, get saved, they are searching for a record deal and trying to "get out there".

Third, this scripture has been taken out of context. The key to the whole Proverb is the word "Laid up" or "Set aside". That means that it is "detached" and stored up for the just. God is not going to use you to prosper the wicked! God is not going to use a gospel artist to promote a sinful artist. He is not going to let you use his name to validate the lifestyle of a sinful artist! God forbid. If the wealth is still attached to the wicked, God doesn't want it. Since these wicked artists are hurting his people, they are cursed. And their money, as long as it's attached to them, is cursed. So, don't use this scripture if you are talking about money you are "making" for the wicked. God will lay it up, or set it aside for you.

PROOF - Remember when Saul tried to keep the wealth of wicked and offer it to God? 1Samuel 15:2 God didn’t want it because it was from the very people that were destroying his people! Or what about Achan! Joshua 7:1 Was the wealth he kept "laid up" for the just? Well, the very people that are destroying the minds and hearts of our youth today are Hip Hop artists! Do you think God wants you to make them prosper even more? God forbid!

SCRIPTURE - 1Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things, which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

--

ARGUMENT - But I've got to have my music!  What am I supposed to listen to? You are taking away the fun of living.  Why can't we just stop being so picky about things?

RESPONSE - This thing is Spiritual.  If you are thinking naturally, you will never understand the message of EX! You will not understand what God really has for you. And you will not make it heaven without being "Spiritually minded". If you desire secular music, secular clubs, sinful movies, and sinful things all the time, you really need to check your lifestyle. Are you really saved? Has God really come in and changed you? Are you free from demons? Are you free from curses? Please, my friend, look into your life. Check it out.

What has happened in America, is that the people with curses, demons, or serious emotional issues and problems are famous now. They are making the music that the world is buying.  They are spreading confusion and the very hidden issues in their lives to the public. So, people with issues love and desire to be with people with issues! Even in Gospel, artists with demons, emotional problems, and dysfunctions are famous now! And they are causing many others to follow them without even addressing the hidden issues of their own lives.

PROOF - Just like Lucifer in heaven.  Remember that, he did not leave the presence of God alone, but he convinced 1/3 of the angels to follow him. How in the world can you convince anyone to leave the presence of God for evil?  MUSIC!

SCRIPTURES - (Read it all, thoroughly!)

Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10* And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

--

ARGUMENT - Jesus ate with sinners and was around them all the time. That's how he reached them. Why can't these Gospel artists go to the world by recording with secular artists? What’s the difference?

RESPONSE - Yes, Jesus did reach out to sinners to win them. He did eat and spent time with them.  This argument had me stumped! I searched for an answer to this argument and couldn't seem to find one. But the Holy Spirit answered me very clearly one day. He told me to go to this scripture: Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. I still didn’t understand the answer. But the Spirit spoke to me and said that the key to this verse is not the word "fellowship" because Jesus did spend time with unbelievers. But the key is the word "Works".  The Lord asked me what does BMI called a published song? A "work"!  I was shocked. The Lord said that he indeed fellowshipped with sinners, but he never produced unfruitful "works" with them. When you record on a secular CD, you are apart of an unfruitful work of darkness. When Christian artists record on these sinful Hip Hop albums, their intentions may be good, yet because the content of the rest of the cd is sex, drugs, and sin, it is an unfruitful "work" of darkness! If you call BMI and ask them about that CD, they will refer to it as a "work".  And because of the sin, the CD is promoting the kingdom of "darkness" right? So is this the type of fellowship of an unfruitful work that the Lord was referring to? You bet! If it hurts the minds of people in anyway, it is not a work of Christ.

PROOF - If you are riding in a car with someone and they get pulled over for having drugs in the car, guess who goes to jail? Even if you didn't know, you will go down because by riding with that person, you are saying "I agree" or "I condone your actions". People of God, when you record, listen to, or in anyway support this Hip Hop movement, you are in agreement with it fully. You are condoning by association!

SCRIPTURE - 2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:  for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

--

ARGUMENT - God can still use the Gospel artists even though they are recording with secular artists right?

RESPONSE - This is a very good question. Many feel that we are asking people to destroy their Gospel CD's as well as their secular CD's. But you have to be careful how you handle this information on our site. We own and enjoy Gospel music from certain artists that have recorded with secular artists.  But we do no encourage the support of projects that are in support of secular artists. For example, we love Fred Hammond's project "Purpose by design" and we support his own projects because he doesn’t use secular artists, nor does he use secular producers. However, we will not support his collaboration with P.Diddy on Bad Boy records because we don't want our money to support the enemy’s weapons against our nations youth! We do believe that the "anointing" can be compromised and lost by these artists if they continue to compromise their integrity and join themselves with these explicit artists in the name of Christ. Recording for and with these Hip Hop artists says one thing and one thing only. That you are in agreement with them and what they do! Jesus never produced "works" with sinners. To do that, you must join yourselves with them spiritually and agree with their spiritual state. After all, if you disagree with their lifestyle and method of making money, how can you join yourselves with them to prosper them and help promote their cause?

PROOF - The word of God was very clear in its dealings with the prophet Ezekiel and the sin of Israel.  In the book of Ezekiel, God's people began to close their eyes to sin because of prosperity and they begin to teach and promote sin. The prophets and ministers began to join themselves with prosperous sinners and began to embrace the sins of the people without standing up and teaching the true Word of God. They even began falsely prophesying to justify their actions. Sounds like our Gospel Music industry? Homosexuality was ignored and not dealt with. Vanity and self promotion was ignored and the norm.  Mixing and mingling with sinful, secular people that claimed God and yet worshipped idols and other gods was and still is an abomination to the living God! How can you join your ministry to that? So we do believe that good music can be created by many of these compromising artists, but you must allow God to lead you in your support of them. After all, Lucifer was allowed to make music in Heaven, but when he crossed the line, he was removed.  Many gospel artists are crossing the line by supporting the secular industry and it's up to us as a church to take a stand. So do not allow sinful secular artists, producers, and writers to prophecy their doctrines of sin upon your ears. Even though their lyrics may be gospel, they are joined to Satan and are workers of iniquity!  And since music carries their spirit, you may be inviting an evil presence into your church, home, or into you mind! God does not want any part of it. Check out what he told Ezekiel about this same subject:

SCRIPTURE - Ezekiel 4:11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.

--

ARGUMENT - If God is not working through hip-hop, how come so many people are touched by the music of Holy Hip Hop groups? They claim to be ministering in the spirit and that hip-hop is their median.

RESPONSE - A crowd of young people dancing and partying to beats and raps does not signify a move of God.  The truth lies in the fact that when the concert is over, do they throw away the world's music? Are demons cast out of these youth?  Do they want to change their lifestyle and live according to the Word of God? Holy Hip Hop and any other form of Hip Hop are not of God because of the spirit that operates through Hip Hop.  KRS-ONE and others have been trying for years to get Hip Hop in the church and now they have through this Holy Hip Hop movement.  That's why it's hard to even tell the difference between many of these Holy Hip Hoppers and the real Hip Hoppers.  Most of them dress the same, promote the same the spirits and even imitate the real Hip Hoppers while they are rapping.  Youth pastors, Pastors, and churches should beware.  We must not allow Hip Hop in our churches or allow it to be used to reach the youth.  It's not necessary!  Youth are YOUTH!  They are attracted to beats and people that look like their worldly heroes.  Even Kanye West was able to bring 300 kids to the alter with his beats and lyrical style.  Does that mean he was of God?  Did the fruit remain?  Was the Holy Ghost in operation?  If what the Holy Hip Hoppers are saying is true, then we should just allow P. Diddy, Kanye West and JayZ to start coming and ministering to our youth groups.  After all, if Hip Hop is a tool, then anyone can use it for good or for bad right?  We must not get this confused because the enemy wants the credit for everything that we do as Christians. If we say that we, as Christians, are Holy Hip Hoppers, then we are giving the credit for our way of living or rapping to the enemy because Hip Hop rests upon his principles and doctrines and not the leading of the Holy Spirit! We are posting an article from a good friend of this ministry about the enemy wanting the credit for what God is doing through people. Go here to read it. If what we do is Hip Hop in anyway, then guess who gets the credit for it?

PROOF - Say you work for a major corporation like Sony. You come up a monster invention that no one has ever seen before. You found a way to erase old CD's that you don’t listen to anymore and rerecord on them. You tell your boss, he gets the development team to build it and it's placed on the market. From this point on, no one throws away cd's or sales them because they can now rerecord them. The world is changed by your invention. Who gets the credit for the change? You or Sony? Is your name on the invention? Is your face in the stores next to your invention? NO. Even though you came up with the concept, the origin of the idea belongs to Sony. Sony employed you, owned you, established you, gave you the resources, and even put you in the mode to create because Sony created the first CD!!!

Well, if what we are doing to reach the lost, win souls for Christ, and establish the Kingdom of God is Hip Hop, then who gets the credit? God? No! The culture does because you have pledged your allegiance to them!!!!

SCRIPTURE - Php 3:8 yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the Excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

--

ARGUMENT - Isn't hip-hop just a culture, just as we have the American culture and the African culture? Many have said that the culture itself isn't bad; it's what the people in the culture portray.

RESPONSE - Let's be real for a minute. Cultures are subject to movements of people based on situations or circumstances surrounding them right? That would mean that every culture has a base. And whatever that base is decides what the fruit of that culture will be. In other words, the roots determine the fruit! The roots of Hip Hop are demonic. Oppression, anguish, poverty, violence, and other negative influences created this culture. Zulu customs, teachings, and ideals gave foundation and established the "positive" aspects of Hip Hop. You must realize that God did not play a part in the creation, establishing, or foundation of Hip Hop, so how can we drag him into it at this late stage. KRS-ONE says that a spirit visited him and the spirit influenced him to accept his calling in Hip Hop. This was also stated by Afrika Bambaata who is the founding father of Hip Hop. How can we embrace this culture when its origins are evil and demonic?

Many Christians are trying to hold on to their pasts by staying true to the culture and embracing it because that's where they came from. But Paul says that he counts all that he had attained as DOOKIE!!! That means that we must let go of who we were and move on in our new identity in Christ. God never intended for the black man to be oppressed, poor, and discriminated against.  And God seeks to deliver us out of that mentality that influenced us to act on our oppression. But he never wanted us to look within ourselves and find the answers, as the hip hop leaders preach, but he wants us to look to him and use his method, the word of God, to break free from the curses of our oppressors.

PROOF - Why did God, when he changed the lives of Paul and Abraham, change their names? All through the bible, God would always change the name or give a meaningful name to those that he called and used. Their name would preach a sermon in itself about their transformation process or their intent for living. Well, if God has changed you, how can you hold on to your surroundings, your old ways, and your old thought processes? You cannot! God would also take his people out of their environments, away from their friends and family, and move them into new lands. But those that held on to their old customs or cultures were left behind. Why? Because where we come from is not where God wants us to stay. Listen my people; God is not concerned with our cultures.  He wants to establish a place for us in the only true culture and that is the Kingdom of God!!!

SCRIPTURE - Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things, which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things, which are before,

--

ARGUMENT - I heard a Holy Hip Hopper say that if Hip Hop cannot be Holy, then soccer cannot be a good sport because it originated as a form of brutal murder.  Men's heads would be kicked around in medieval times and that's where soccer originated.  So, do we not play soccer because its origins are corrupt? Well, even though Hip Hop's origins are corrupt, can't we use it for fun like soccer now?

RESPONSE - This is so ridiculous.  First, people are not playing soccer with human heads anymore.  There are no murderously bloody ones going on in our time.  So, it cannot be compared to Hip Hop because the originators, the creators, founders, and the evil Hip Hop movement are still going strong now.  Much stronger than the knockoff "Holy" version will ever be.  So, the two cannot compared.  Secondly, soccer was not spiritual.  No one in soccer is foolish enough to start calling it "good soccer" or "holy soccer" it's just SOCCER.  Only these rappers that want to do what their heroes of Hip Hop have been doing want to make the culture/religion of Hip Hop "Holy".  Real Hip Hoppers know that it's just plain Hip Hop.  No Holy version at all exists to them.  To the streets, it's just Hip Hop.  And because of the demonic stronghold of Hip Hop, God chooses not to join with it.  Men may have ideas and plans, but the Spirit of God will not join with the spirit of darkness to get anything accomplished in the Kingdom. 

PROOF - This question is so ridiculous and un-spiritual that I don't want to waste any more of my time proving it!  If you want Hip Hop, then follow the Holy Hip Hoppers.  They will make you feel that you can be Heaven bound with your worldly identity.  Hip Hop made you feel like somebody when you were in the world, so now you can join the Holy Hip Hop movement and keep those feelings with Christ stamped on it?  Wake up people.

SCRIPTURE - Gal. 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

--

ARGUMENT- You are not supposed to call names of people out in public like that.  You are supposed to go to them in private first right? How can you do that and call yourselves Christians?

RESPONSE - Our church is plagued with fear to expose the truth. When it’s the truth that the word says makes you free! We at EX Ministries may call out a few names of Christians that do things contrary to the teaching of Jesus in the church and people think we are judging them. But the information we give it is on the Internet, in magazines, and other forms of media, yet for some reason, when we repeat it, people call that judging and are ready to cut our throats! We are only bringing clarity to things that are said and done that are contrary to the Word! Isn't that our job? People act like its OUR FAULT that some of the people we use as examples are doing the things they do against the truth. We receive vicious threats and profane emails everyday from people defending various "Gospel" artists or ministers because of things that they themselves are doing that do not line up with scripture. We are living in a sad day when people will fight to protect their favorite singers rather than stand up for the truth of the Word of God. And whatever happened to that thing we used to have as saints of God called DISCERNMENT? I guess so many are caught up in sin until they don't want anyone discerning them so they cancel that ability as a saint. Check the bible people! Stating the truth is what Jesus taught us to do. Paul called out people publicly for what they did. Some to their face (Peter in Galatians 2:14) and some he called out when they were not present to warn people of their contrary deeds (Hymenaeus and Alexander in 1Timothy 1:20). Now, had their contrary deeds been done privately, then I’m sure Paul would have dealt with them privately. But when it’s done openly, it requires open rebuke according to the word. So don’t get disturbed when you hear that someone is doing something they shouldn’t. We are the body of Christ and we are to keep each other lifted up when we fall. We are to keep the lines of the Kingdom of God visible according to the word and we are to keep guard that the enemy cannot infiltrate. Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. That means that we must close off all doors or openings that the enemy seeks to enter into the church. Make sure you keep a good understanding about the word and know that we do not judge the world, but we have people that God has called to judge his people. Pastor, prophets, etc, are here to state truth and judge situations that require it in the church of God.

PROOF - Understand the bible!  Understand that people are going for TV, radio, movies etc. and they are seeking fame.  But when you are famous and you error on that level, then you must be corrected on that level. This is so that all that followed your error will be properly warned and can receive the truth of the matter.  You see, many are making music, recording media (dvd/cd) and once this stuff is out, it's out!  You can't take it back and you cannot right all the wrong because so many people were affected by the error.  So, this is why the scripture tells us to confront before all in certain instances because all need to know the truth of the matter.  Don't get caught up in the hype.  Many do not teach this because they are afraid of exposure.  It doesn't seem right to our modern day belief system because we live in a time where we don't like to expose the truth.  We live in a time where people would rather be quiet and just allow the devil run free without any warning.  But if you are a true reader and believer of the Word, you know that EX Ministries method of exposing truth is biblical and sound.  Only those that do not read and understand the Word have a problem with it

SCRIPTURE - 1Tim. 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also may be fearful of sinning.

--

ARGUMENT - Why is the Cross Movement and Da Truth dissing you guys on national TV?  Is there a war between you guys?

RESPONSE - There is no war against the Cross Movement, DA Truth and EX Ministries.  The war is between the fundamentalists’ beliefs and the Pentecostal move of God.  Because Cross Movement and Da Truth deny the gifts of God (laying on of hands, casting out devils, Rhema word from God [God speaking to man outside of the written logos Word], and divine healing) they take the position that our ministry should not exist since it was given by divine revelation.  They do not believe that God's gifts are in operation today but that he stopped using men that way in the bible days.  Listen and hear Ambassador on Holy Culture Radio deny the gifts and claim that the bible has scribal errors in it just like KRSONE and Afrika Bambaata claim and all 5%'s claim.  Because these guys believe this way and are constantly converting their listeners to believe this doctrine, we have been forced to stand against them.  We originally supported the Cross Movement and Da Truth, but after our 2 hour phone debate with them, we have made up in our minds that according to the Word of God, we cannot walk together and not be in agreement on the Bible and the very foundation of God's Pentecostal move upon his body.  We believe in the entire Bible and believe that the whole bible was inspired by God and no part of it should be deleted or questioned.  We believe that once man decides to change or remove portions of the Word, they are subject to error and heretical beliefs.  So, we cannot support the Cross Movement, Ambassador, or Da Truth as long as they stand on this belief that the bible is in error.  We encourage all true believers of God and those that believe in the true power of God in operation today, to listen closely to the lyrics and the teachings of Ambassador and his followers.  Don't just be a fan of these guys, but stand firm on what you know is the truth, even if it means turning off their music and ceasing to support them.  We must stand for the bible and not allow people to change it at will or edit it for their own agenda.  There is enough confusion in the lives of our youth to have a so called Holy Hip Hop group say that the bible is not all true or that there are scribal errors in it that would have changed what we know today as the Pentecostal church beliefs.

PROOF - The Zulu Nation, Afrika Bambaata, and KRSONE all believe the bible is flawed and should be reinterpreted. Hip Hop rests upon this belief system, and thus, those that claim to be Holy Hip Hop must subscribe to this belief. It's in the spirit of Hip Hop to deny that the bible is flawless! If this is what The Cross Movement and Da Truth believe, then why aren't they preaching this openly instead of hiding it in their lyrics?  Check this out:

From the Album “Heaven’s Mentality” 

Song : “Test It” …even those in the fam lookin’ for more than the words of the Son tryin’ to have fun sayin’: “God told me this” “The Lord told me that” But if it ain’t confirmed in the Word it ain’t fact.  But some still continue and I think it’s sick ‘cause back in the day they would’a had to catch a brick!

This song suggests that there is no such thing as a Rhema Word.  It also suggests that God doesn’t speak directly to people.  For instance if God told someone to move to California and start a church—according to Cross Movement this would not be God.  They only believe in what can be confirmed in the Bible.  We certainly believe that if any message contradicts the scriptures that it is not of God. But didn’t Jesus say, “My sheep hear my voice? “    There are specific things to our lives that cannot be verbatim confirmed in the Bible however God may speak them directly to us through his spirit or even indirectly through another person.  I even had a friend of mine be taunted by the Cross Movements camp for claiming that he had demons!  They do not believe in these things, yet they are promoting and marketing themselves to Pentecostal believing churches?  Remember, Hip Hop is a move of the enemy, so in order to truly infect the body of Christ, it must hide and disguise itself as something good to move into position to destroy!

SCRIPTURE - 2Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

--

ARGUMENT - The bible said, "Touch not my anointed", but you guys are talking against what Bishop's, pastors, and TBN are doing.  These people are God's anointed and you are in violation of the scripture.

RESPONSE - First, let's take a look at what God was telling David when he made that statement. David was there to take Saul's life!  He was going to kill him but God said no.  God did not want David to kill Saul because he was his successor and had he murdered Saul, he would have set a precedent of murdering leaders to take the thrown.  God told him to "touch him not" but what he was saying was that he didn't want David to murder him.  Yet there are some obvious factors here that must be brought out to fully understand.  It's obvious that David had already been discussing Saul's error to his men because they were there with him when he went to kill Saul.  So, David had already warned his people of Saul's error.  Even though he loved Saul, he was prepared to kill him for the sake of right.  He knew that Saul wasn't right and he taught his men that Saul was not right.  All throughout the scripture, God raised up prophets, apostles, and leaders that exposed deceit and carnality in the body of Christ.  There has to be judgment passed on believers based on their actions as well as their intent.  Not eternal judgment, but judgment in the sense of sorting out the truth based on the Word of God.  The bible says that whether it be a prophet or an angel, if they teach contrary to the Word, let them be accursed! 

PROOF - In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul judged a man based on this actions and this man was not present!  Paul called him out and asked for his removal from the church without him even being present.  What does this teach us? It teaches us that we do not judge the world, but we are judges of the body of Christ.  We use discernment to look into things and we use the bible to "try every spirit" as the Word says.  We go to our brother in secret when he sins secretly or discreetly.  But we go to the public when heresy and public sins are committed.  Don't try to use your flesh to understand this.  You must be born of God and really a total bible believer.

SCRIPTURE - 1Tim. 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also may be fearful of sinning.

--

ARGUMENT - Shouldn't you just pray for these artists and let God handle them?  God should be the one that deals with them right?

RESPONSE -  Yes, we do pray. In fact, it was through years of fasting and prayer that God gave the revelation of this ministry!  You see, how does God deal with men according to the scripture? WITH MEN!  God uses men to deal with men.  That's the problem with so much of our church these days.  People don't want to be accountable to anyone and they want to just pray about it and give it to God, when God is trying to give it back to us to deal with.  What is the pastor for? What is the prophet for? What is the apostle for? Come on people!  God uses men to deal with these issues and expose the lies in the body of Christ.  God warns people through MEN.  God speaks to people many times through MEN.  God heals through MEN.  God delivers through MEN.  God created man to represent him on earth. 

PROOF - When God judged Pharaoh, he used Moses!  When God judged Ahab and Jezebel, he used Elijah.  When God judged David, he used Nathan.  When God judged King Herod, he used John. When God judged the early church, he used Paul, Peter, and John.  When God judged the Pharisees and the scribes, he used Jesus.  When God judged Peter, he used Paul.  And today, when God wants to rebuke, reprove, and expose, he will use MEN.  We can't just pray about it and get up, but we must pray about it and stay there until God tells us what to do about it! What if all these people I mentioned had said, "I'm going to give it to God in prayer and leave it there?" God is going to use MEN to carry out his orders and there is nothing else to say about that!

SCRIPTURE - 2Tim. 4:2 -preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires.

 


Spotlight Scripture

And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell; but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord (Joshua 24:15).

E MAIL UPDATES


Launch Music Player